Global collective stress: psychology and nuclear risk

[Grelinette]

... and I add that the calculations of probability of a disaster exclude an essential parameter: human greed!

On France Inter this morning, information announces that "The Japanese leaders would have been slow to intervene on their nuclear power plants for financial reasons: by immediately flooding the overheated reactors with sea water, the plant becomes unusable. They would have waited for the last moment to react while hoping to limit the financial consequences to the detriment of the health of the population "...

[Christophe]

On France Inter this morning, information announces that "The Japanese leaders would have been slow to intervene on their nuclear power plants for financial reasons: by immediately flooding the overheated reactors with sea water, the plant becomes unusable. They would have waited for the last moment to react while hoping to limit the financial consequences to the detriment of the health of the population "...

Because French nuclear workers may be less greedy?

Please re-watch and transmit this documentary to your acquaintances: https://www.econologie.com/forums/edf-et-la- ... t7513.html because it directly concerns the greed of EdF shareholders and managers

BA: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEtHcN6gopE
Full video: https://www.econologie.com/documentaire- ... -4285.html

[Lietseu]

We are in a society where the younger generations aspire to "Get out of fear" (ie the revolutions of the Arab world).

In this sense, it is reassuring ....

Young people and those who have not aged!

We all want to LIVE and not LIVE or SURVIVE, this is where young people from all continents, come in reinforcement saying, we do not want your mold that binds us and prevents us from breathing.

Most humans, remember, do not have to eat or drink every day that God does ... this is very meaningful and seems to escape far too many "rulers" ...

Do you sincerely believe that Kadafi cares about the well being of thousands of his fellow citizens?
And the international community, the United Nations, the useless big thing that never stops deciding not to decide anything and thus passes on, these people who are nevertheless humans, for less than nothing ...
Who can remain indifferent to this masquerade?
In my opinion they are all dictators-in the sense that they try not to offend the people who elected them-as Gaddafi announces a "bloodbath" to all these opponents (just to be reassured) because of course with the dictators, either we are with, or we are against them!
There is enough of all this mess to organize by the mafiosi of the planet ...
Enough useless bloodshed, power plants that are uncontrollable (they have been since the beginning of their construction) and commodification of the human being!
WE ARE NOT SPARE PARTS! SHIT

And to think that in addition the Dalai Lama will officially take his "pension", I wish him long and prosperous life and above all, I hope that he will continue to pray for us poor eras until his death.

Meow

[Christophe]

An article on Japanese courage:

These poignant heroism Japanese

The voice of Masumi, who lives in Ogawa-machi (in the Japanese department of Saitama), less than 300 kilometers from the region where the tsunami and earthquake occurred, gives the impression of being in complete control. of itself; she would worry sooner about my fate here in France, that of my parents or other friends. On March 15th, she even thought of wishing a birthday to a member of my family first. This delicacy, this greatness of soul, expressed to perfection in the smallest details and in such a situation seem to me the most "Japanese" features in everyday nightmares. It is an identical attitude that we found in the ruins of Kobe after the great earthquake of January 17, 1995. I volunteered without really knowing why or what help I could bring. Maybe a vague idea that I could be of help. Among the material debris and the remains already set aside, I had experienced an unforgettable distress, beyond words, a "natural history of destruction" which was far beyond my comprehension. .

However, among the most tried survivors, far from the requests yet the most urgent, I had found everywhere an attention turned towards the other, a "calm" which did not prevent the strongest emotions by giving them, on the contrary , an additional density; the absence of verbal overbidding added a poignant force to every word, to every gesture, including those which sprang from the deepest despair. Already the speed of relief and the "communication" of the Japanese government had been judged lacking.

The way in which the Japanese media treat the catastrophe which has just occurred in the north-east of Japan, with all the hesitations that the situation imposes, with the unspoken that we have a sense of, the uncertainties that hover seem polar opposite clinics, the words of experts, evaluators, spokespersons for "the politics of things"; attitude which led here three days one of our "specialists" to leave only a few seconds to the ambassador of Japan in France to be expressed. Masumi wrote two days ago: "It is as if I saw the paintings of the (Buddhist) underworld on television all the time: I no longer dare to look up at the screen." She just hopes, like that, between two sentences, that Japan will not disappear. It would look like holiness if you still believed in it. When you have lived a significant part of your life in Japan, this relationship with loved ones and the natural universe based on an acute awareness of the precariousness, joys and sorrows it brings, irreparably changes the look we have on the world around us.

(...)

Suite: http://www.lemonde.fr/idees/article/201 ... _3232.html

[Christophe]

http://www.lemonde.fr/idees/article/201 ... _3232.html

Fukushima or the end of the Anthropocene

The tsunami that hit northeast Japan and the subsequent explosions at the Fukushima nuclear power plant are a relentless combination of human, geological and psychological disasters.

The interweaving of natural elements with industrial objects makes our planet an open-air laboratory: no place on Earth can escape experimentation. If there is indeed a natural geological epicenter of the earthquake that devastated the northeast of the island of Honshu, the Fukushima plant represents the symbolic epicenter of the Anthropocene era.

From the beginning of the industrial era, Homo faber has grown into a central and all-powerful geological force. This era began two hundred years ago with the beginnings of the industrial revolution. Today, all the cycles of the biosphere are modified by human activities - carbon, water, phosphorus cycle ...

Glaciologists measure at the bottom of the polar ice an overdose of greenhouse gases appeared since the beginnings of industrialization, of an unprecedented magnitude compared to the 800 previous years. The current climatic conditions, disrupted, are no longer just natural. The elements have never known such a rapid transformation. Energy from coal, petroleum and uranium has given Homo faber an accelerated capacity for exploitation and destruction of nature.

The dropping of two atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki marked the climax of this era of the Anthropocene. Nuclear power finds its original sin in the explosion of the atomic bomb.

Uranium and plutonium are today associated in Mox fuel, which is the pride of the French nuclear industry. "Ecological", because resulting from the recycling of part of the highly radioactive waste, "confined" in barrels and swimming pools today gutted in Fukushima, these materials - the most dangerous on the planet - supply switches, radiators, refrigerators, high-speed trains and factories.

Consumption and mass dizziness having become a state of nature in the second half of the twentieth century, nuclear power suppliers have donned the spangles of a global "movida" presented as a force for emancipation. Doesn't the recent Areva ad show a nuclear power plant near an imaginary beach, similar to Copacabana or Sendai before the tsunami, where a party is in full swing to the sound of lobotomous techno?

The Anthropocene is also that: an era of exuberance that abolishes anxiety, where the automobile and the flat screen have become fundamental human rights. An era of addiction, where the production of means has become the end of existence. An era of acceleration, where growth, which is based on the endless cycle of production and consumption, must produce ever more useless objects for those who already have too many. This is the very logic of productivism.

The volume of electro-industrial objects exceeds the capacity to understand our imagination and our feelings, writes the philosopher Günther Anders. The fact that Japan, a vulnerable archipelago, already struck by two atomic bombs, was able to agree to erect fifty-four nuclear reactors on a seismic fault probably illustrates the disarmament of human understanding in the face of its staggering creations.

Until the day when ... the sleep of consciousness generates monsters. Time bombs - nuclear, climate, chemical - are starting to explode. Here we are.

Faced with the remains of destroyed cities, faced with the texture of the future, which is no longer the same, the dread never stops. Repairing the immense damage promises to be heavy and long, if at all possible. But the breakdown and the explosion of the containment of atomic reactors are irreparable and irreversible. Entire areas will be banned forever, as in Tarkovski's Stalker.

Nuclear energy is of another temporal order than the telluric force of tectonic plates or that the fire of volcanoes. The unleashing of the elements revealed the excess as much as the fragility of thermo-industrial machines.

Humanity, actress and victim of this excess, has created the conditions for its vulnerability by becoming an engine of geological transformation more dangerous than the forces of Earth. Today, the explosion at the Fukushima power plant tells us that we are meeting with the smashing outflow of the Anthropocene. This catastrophe intimates us to deploy a form of awakening not dependent on the rhythm of the machines of thermo-industry.

The end of time which takes place in the northeast of Japan calls for a start, an awareness of the inanity of the forms of current growth, based on a terrifying thirst for energy, for the greatest momentary benefit of a few planetary firms. Societies need to pull themselves together in order to invent human-sized, resilient and cooperative systems.

Agnès Sinaï, environmental journalist, lecturer at Sciences Po Paris, co-founder of the Momentum Institute

[Leo Maximus]

I must not be the only one, but the struggle of this handful of men in the plant reminds me of something: Germinal, where miners struggle desperately to save their comrades who were wallowed after a stroke of firedamp. The scale has changed, we are in the nuclear age. In Fukushima, a handful of men are desperately struggling to save an entire country.

Thank you nuclear, even in the days of Zola coal did not endanger an entire country! What progress!

When Fuku is "finished", it will not be over. We will be between two catastrophes: that of Fukushima and the next. Slowly, but surely, nuclear will take us back to the cave age.

ML

[Leo Maximus]

Take part in the vote: "In your opinion, should France get out of nuclear power?" on lemonde.fr.

For now, it's 60% no and 40% yes.

Reaction among supporters of the "no": EDF not being TEPCO we can continue without fear.

ML

[Obamot]

Germinal finished? Far from it, indeed! We must go take a look at the banana republics and other mining states that have become dying houses, where workers are torn between territorial wars and pressure from stock markets!

We are in a society where the younger generations aspire to "Get out of fear" (ie the revolutions of the Arab world).

In this sense, it is reassuring ....

Young people and those who have not aged!

We all want to LIVE and not LIVE or SURVIVE, this is where young people from all continents, come in reinforcement saying, we do not want your mold that binds us and prevents us from breathing.

Most humans, remember, do not have to eat or drink every day that God does ... this is very meaningful and seems to escape far too many "rulers" ...

Do you sincerely believe that Kadafi cares about the well being of thousands of his fellow citizens?
And the international community, the United Nations, the useless big thing that never stops deciding not to decide anything and thus passes on, these people who are nevertheless humans, for less than nothing ...
Who can remain indifferent to this masquerade?

Yes, but it's better than the arbitrary invasions of the greatest power on the planet.

In my opinion they are all dictators-in the sense that they try not to offend the people who elected them-as Gaddafi announces a "bloodbath" to all these opponents (just to be reassured) because of course with the dictators, either we are with, or we are against them!
There is enough of all this mess to organize by the mafiosi of the planet ...

No comment. No, I don't see what we could add ... Except that without going to the conspiracy theory. The fact is that in our societies, citizens are not encouraged to hold high collective values ​​which should be the spearhead of democracies by nature. On the contrary, everything is done to dissociate the collective from the private in order to recover everything by politicians.

Thus those who try to do "good" outside of generalized corruption, end up losing their breath and disappear or even being put in prison => like José Bové (the examples are unfortunately numerous) ... And those who do evil are so powerful and well protected by law that they are quite untouchable as long as they do not ostentatiously challenge public order. So much so that sometimes we would almost be surprised at the trials against these "untouchables ..."

Enough useless bloodshed, power plants that are uncontrollable (they have been since the beginning of their construction) and commodification of the human being!
WE ARE NOT SPARE PARTS! SHIT

... the day we show that man exists in our societies ... let me know! There is only the money left! In the meantime, those who profit from social destruction ... have a fair share by claiming to preserve democratic rights and even secularism ... in the face of dictatorships. There are nonetheless other types of much more skilful dictators, who have nonetheless confiscated power from the people for generations. We totally agree?!

And to think that in addition the Dalai Lama will officially take his "pension", I wish him long and prosperous life and above all, I hope that he will continue to pray for us poor eras until his death.

this is the only point where we cannot agree. This character, although having an immense reputation in Western countries, is not and will never have that sort of “Buddhist Pope” status that Westerners have been good enough to attribute to him. He only represents Tibetans, because on the "Buddhist" side he is rather considered a very bad student by the rest of the world community.

[Lietseu]

He only represents Tibetans, because on the "Buddhist" side he is rather considered a very bad student by the rest of the world community.

Can you develop this point please?

Am very curious to have your-their opinions ...

Meow

[Lietseu]

http://www.lemonde.fr/idees/article/201 ... _3232.html

Fukushima or the end of the Anthropocene

The tsunami that struck ...

Agnès Sinaï, environmental journalist, lecturer at Sciences Po Paris, co-founder of the Momentum Institute

What mastery!

What a pretty pen and what truths in so few lines !!!!



MEOW